Lovell Families : Wales & related families
Lovell : One branch of the Lovell family were descended from Nathaniel Lovell & Sarah
* Saifi* Scamp daughter of Riley Scamp & Vansi Lee.
Information about their Children:
Uriah............. b 1848 Newmarket Pembrokeshire.......married Sophia Cooper
John...............b 1849 Tenby......married Ellen Jones-Harriet Ellen woods
Seth...............b 1853 Tenby ..........married Ellen Amos
Louisa............ b 1853 Flintshire......
Jane...............b 1855 Flintshire............
Rewdelfas (M) b 1857 Flintshire..could be Adolphus who married Trenit Lovell :South Wales line
Noah............... b 1860 Flintshire .......married Mary Williams or Carney
Robert............. b 1862 St Asaph Flintshire ..married Lydia Poole
Edwin.............. b 1868 Merionethshire
Son : John Lovell b 1849/50-married Ellen Jones -Harriet Ellen Woods
Had a son listed In British Army WW1 Pensions Records 1914 -1920
John Lovell born 1873/4 Parish of Towyn
Enlisted 16th Feb 1891 - aged 18 -single : 4th Battalion Royal Welsh Fusillisers- 6yrs
He could not write but made his mark : X on all the documents
Labourer - Name of person working for : Mr Williams Caernvon This is dated 16th Feb 1891 when took his oath of joining up On 23th March 1891 he was examined at Caernvon passed as fit: He had grey eyes – black hair -5ft 2” Distinctive marks: lost little finger of left hand
Re-engaged : 9th June 1896
Re-engaged : 10th Aug 1900
Re-engaged 25th June 1904 -aged 31
When he last joined in 1904 his address was given below and in care of:
I believe that would be his father :C/o of John Lovell 20 Caduant Lane Caernvon.
It also says on his discharge 15th Feb 1909 Address given as 66 Mountain Street Caernvon
He was home in 07/02/1908 -15/02/1909 * Wales* Name & Address of next of kin: Doris Taylor -married March 1906 Llanwist -Her parents Robert & Mrs Lloyd Address: 11 Chapel Street Llanwist
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Son : Seth Lovell b 1853 married Ellen Amos b 1855 Staffordshire
Had a son Enlisted In British Army WW1 Pensions Records 1914-1920
Joseph Lovell b 1887
Enlisted as boy aged 15 : Welsh Fusillisers in 1902 -1903
He could write his own name:
Appointed Lan Corp in 1907
1908 he was aged 21 from Bangor
5ft -ins - Swarthy complexion - brown eyes -brown hair
Married Maggie Edwards 25/02/1907 Address : 66 mountain Street Caernarvon
Witness of wedding R Jones & R Lovell
On 2nd September 1914 he was called up to serve in Territorial Forces -4yrs service
Address : given 20 mountain street Caernarvon
Son : Noah Lovell: Married 1879 Apr/May/June Conway Denbighshire .. Mary Williams or Carney
They had a son Noah b 1873 -died 1873 Conway Denbighshire
Noah's
Son Nathaniel Lovell b 1884 : listed In British Army WW1 Pensions Records 1914 -192o
In 1899 enlisted as a boy -aged 15
He was listed as joining on 15th May 1905 -aged 21- single -4th Welsh Battalion Fusilisers
He re-joined on 6th March 1908 Royal Welsh Fusilisers Special Reservists 6yrs :: Address 23 Mountain Street Caernarvon
He was 5ft 5ins - Hazel eyes -brown hair
Next of Kin : Father Noah Lovell of 23 mountain Street Caernarvon
Adolphus Lovell b 1857 :married Tenitt Lovell
Sons: Noah Lovell b 1885.. he married Elsie Helen Russell 20/12/ 1915 Southampton
In British Army WW1 Pensions Records 1914 -1920
1908 Caernarvonshire
He was listed as Seaman aged 24 ; 5ft 5ins - black hair- dark complexion - brown eyes
Had a tattoo Female figure on back right forearm ........ clasp hands over heart front of Left forearm
On his de-mob papers 22/02/1920 - Home address: 6 Mount Pleasant Frome Somerset
Next of Kin : Father Adolphus Lovell 46 ? Caernarvonshire & sister Romania
There is a letter regarding :: dated 26th Jan 1968
Noah Lovell otherwise deceased 83 Vigo Rd Andover
The treasury Solictor is now prepared to admit on the evidence placed before him that the above named, was survived by a niece Louise Mooney 30 Lon Ogwen Bangor Caernarvonshire entitled to share in the estate priority
to the crown. In these cirmumstances the Treasury Solictor will have no interest in the estate and will not be further concerned in the matter. There maybe other relatives of equal degree but only claim I have examined is that of Mary Mooney.
Son : Robert Lovell born 1888 also joined up as a boy aged 14 -07/04/1902
He was 4ft 7ins -swarthy complexion - brown hair -brown eyes
He signed his own name
On 23 -06-1906 he got into abit of trouble aged 18 : conduct sheet says :
Not complying with an order - drunk and wilfully damaging Regimental property -punsihment 4 days CC
In 1908 he was 5ft 6in tall enlisted Royal Welsh Fusilisers
Address given was : 66 mountain Street Caernarvon
Son: Adolphus Lovell : married Margery Letitia Braddick b 1923 Shropshire
Parents: William Braddick/Bennett & Rose Ellen Boswell
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1861 Census Conway Caernarvonshire * under surname Leigh - Lovell *
Nathaniel Leigh. 35 b 1826 Heatham Gloucestershire no occupation listed
Sarah..............31 b 1830 Worcestershire
Uriah 13 b 1848 Newmarket Pembrokeshire... Uriah appears : 1881 & 1901 Census
John 12 b1849 Tenby
Seth 10 b 1853 Tenby .....Seth appears in : 1881 & 1891 Census
Louisa 8 b 1853 Flintshire
Jane 6 b 1855 Flintshire
Rewdelfas (M) 4 b1857 Flintshire...Adolphus appears in : 1891 Census 16 Cadnaut Place*
Noah 1 b 1860 Flintshire ....Noah appears in : 1881 & 1891 & 1901 Census
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Elizabeth Smith... 30 b 1831 Farnham Essex widowed
Isaac...............11 b 1850 Cardgianshire
Elleria...........19 b 1842 Monmouthshire
Delia..........7 b 1854 Bala Merionerthshire
There is a 10 year gap here where I can;t place family ?
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1881 Census Llaneblig Caernvonshire * 17 Mount Pleasant alley
no 10
John Lovell........................30 b 1851 Tenby Basket maker
Ellen................................30 b 1851 holywell Flintshire
John..................................7 b 1874 Towyn Merionerthshire
Hugh* Uriah*..........................5 b 1876 Newtown Montgromeryshire
Walter................................3 b 1878 Llanblig Caernvonshire
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Nathan Lovell ...................62 b 1819 Gloucestershire Basket maker
Sarah ...............................48 b 1833Tewmagniff Somerset
Robert.............................. 19 b 1862 St Asaph Flintshire Basket maker
Edwin............................... 13 b 1868 Merionethshire
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Seth Lovell........................28 b 1853 Tenby Basket maker
Ellen ...............................27 b 1854 Tenby wife
Elizabeth.............................6 b 1875 Montgromeyshire
John................................. 4 b 1877 Llaneeblig Caernarvonshire
Elijah ...............................1 b 1880 Llaneeblig Caernarvonshire
1881 Census Llaneeblig Caernarvonshire
No 10 Cadnant Lane
Dolphus Lovell ..................23 b 1858 Ryhl Flintshire......... Grinder
Ellen .............................20 b 1861 Gwalchmai Anglesey
Dolphus........................ 7mths b 1880 Llaneeblig Caernarvonshire
1881 Census Bryn Rhys Hamlet Llansantffraid Glan Conway Denbighshire
John Hughes .........74 b 1807 Holywell Flintshire .......Hawker/Pedlar
Charme ..............61 b 1820 Newry ........ ............Hawker/Pedlar
Noah Lovell...... 20 b 1861 St Asaph ......... .......Basket maker
Mary ................20 b 1861 Woolverhampton .......... .Wife
Jilly rose ...........2 b 1879 Llansantffraid .......... .Grand-daughter
1881 Census Denio Caernvonshire:14 Traethtyeiddew
Robert Jones..........................63 b 1818 Denio Pwlheli labourer general
Ann...................................62 b 1819 Llangaffo
Owen Hughes...........................35 b 1846 Llandian- baker/widow
Hugh Hughes.......................... 13 b 1868 Pwlheli - son
Catherine............................ 11 b 1870 Pwlheli - daughter
Ann.................................. 10 b 1871 Pwlheli -daughter
Margaret.............................. 9 b 1872 Phwlheli - daughter
Ellen Jones ......................... 18 b 1863 Pwlheli -grand-daughter
Uriah Lovell ...31 b 1850 St Mary Pembrokeshire ....Lodger/Cutler/grinder
Sophia...........................40 b 1841 Bangor ............. wife
Thomas Welsh......................... 50 b 1851 Ireland ................lodger/ labour
Thomas Evans..........................36 b 1845 St Austell cornwall ....lodger/labour
Ann...................................30 b 1851 Beaumaris................wife
Hugh Williams.........................53 b 1828 Llanebeblio............ lodger/Druggist/chemist
Honora................................38 b 1843 Wexford Ireland ....... wife
Richard Jones.........................36 b 1845 Denbighshire ......... lodger/labour
Ann...................................36 b 1845 Caernvonshire...........wife
Margaret...............................3 b 1878 Caernvonshire ..........daughter
John Matthews ........................50 b 1831 Ireland ................lodger/hawker
John Murphy...........................20 b 1861 Denbighshire ...........lodger/labour
John Williams.........................72 b 1809 Denio Pwlheli...........Lodger/widow
William Lewis.........................55 b 1826 Llanedrog Caernvon......lodger/hawker
Augustine McCabe......................43 b 1838 Bangor .................lodger/hawker
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1891* Census Llaneeblig Caernarvonshire
No 1 Caudnaut Place
Nat Lovell ........................75 b 1816 Wooster England Basket maker
Sarah...............................65 b 1826 Gloucester Hawker/wife
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No 2 Caudnaut Place
Noah Lovell.................... .30 b 1861 Bangor Cutler
Mary..............................29 b 1862 Caernarvonshire wife
Lilly............................ 12 b 1879 Caernarvonshire
Louisa............................10 b 1881 Caernarvonshire
Nathaniel..........................8 b 1883 Caernarvonshire
Kate...............................5 b 1886 Caernarvonshire
16 Cadnaut Place
Adolphus Lovell ................33 b 1858 Phyl, Flintshire Wales Grinder
Margaret..........................28 b 1863 Beanmoris Angelsey
Adolphus..........................10 b 1881 Caernarvon
Noah ..............................5 b 1885 Caernarvon
Robert ............................3 b 1888 Caernarvon
Romania........................5mths b 1890 Caernarvon
No 17
Margaret Jones................ ..66 b 1825 Shropshire widow/Charwoman
Ellen Roberts................... 65 b 1826 Caernarvonshire widow/hawker
Robert...........................19 b1872 Caernarvonshire son/hawker
No 20
John Lovell .................41 b 1850 Pattor Pembrokshire fisherman
Ellen ........................35 b 1856 Flintshire hawker
John .........................17 b 1874 Towyn Merionethshire A Grinder
Uriah.........................15 b 1876 Montgromeyshire labour
Walter........................12 b 1879 Caernarvonshire
Harriet A .....................8 b 1883 Caernarvonshire
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No 1 Caudnaut Lane
William Evans ................32 b 1859 Caernarvonshire On parish relief
Ellen ........................35 b 1856 Caernarvonshire charwoman
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No 3
Ann Jones..................... 65 b 1826 Caernarvonshire Hawking/widow
Catherine .....................35 b 1856 Caernarvonshire Hawking
1891 Census Newtown St No 36 Llanbeblig Caernarvonshire
Seth Lovell................38 b 1853 Llanelly Caernarvonshire........ Basket maker
Ellen.........................36 b 1855 Staffordshire Wife
Elizabeth.....................15 b 1876 Montgromeyshire
John .........................14 b 1877 Caernarvonshire
Liga (M)......................12 b 1879 Caernarvonshire
Romi (M)......................10 b 1881 Caernarvonshire
Seth...........................9 b 1882 Caernarvonshire
Joseph ........................5 b 1886 Bangor
Nigce (M)......................1 b 1890 Caernarvonshire
1891* Census * 77 Rocks Place * Ynyscynhaiarn Tremadoc Caernarvonshire
Uriah Lovell...................44 b 1847 Pembrokeshire............ Grinder
Sophia...........................47 b 1848 Broseley, Shropshire..... wife
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1901* Census Llaneeblig Caernarvonshire * 64 Mountain Street*
Nat Lovell.................... 100 b 1801 Worcester England
Sarah ..............................80 b 1821 Gloucestershire Wife
Dolphus.............................40 b 1861 Rhyl Flintshire Knife Grinder
Robert........18 b 1883 Caernarvonshire Knife Grinder /Grandson -Adolpus son
1901* Census Llaneblig Caerarvonshire * 44 Mountain Street*
Noah Lovell................. 39 b 1862 Ryhl Flintshire Grinder/Cutler
Mary ............................39 b 1862 Wolverhampton
Lousia...........................19 b 1882 Caerarvonshire
Nathaniel........................17 b 1884 Caerarvonshire
William A.........................9 b 1892 Caerarvonshire
Victor ...........................6 b 1895 Caerarvonshire
Edward ...........................2 b 1899 Caerarvonshire
1901* Census Llaneblig Caerarvonshire * 2 Siloh terrace*
Ellen Lovell ..................32 b 1869 Angelsey Hawker............ wife of Adolphus Lovell
Romania .......................11 b 1890 Caerarvonshire
Jane A .........................8 b 1893 Caerarvonshire
Louisa..........................5 b 1896 Caerarvonshire
1901* Census Henlan St Asaph Denbighshire - 7 Denbighshire Street*
John Lovell.............. 54 b 1847 Pembrokeshire Grinder/Cutler
Ellen.....................47 b 1854 Flintshire
John Henry ...............25 b 1876 Merionethshire Collier
Uriah.....................23 b 1878 Montgromeyshire Grinder/Cutler
Walter ...................22 b 1879 Caernvonshire
Harriet Ann ..............18 b 1883 Caernvonshire
John son : John b 1873/4 married Doris Taylor in 1906 he isnt on census because
he is with the Royal Welsh Fusillisers
John Henry Lovell married Lottie Boswell -1915 Jul/Aug/Sept Conway Caernarvonshire, Denbighshire -11b 929
1901* Census Conway Caernvonshire * 30 Chapel Street*
Alfred Cooper .....................45 b 1856 Ruthin Denbighshire Knife Grinder/Cutler
Mary Ann...........................47 b 1854 Buckley Denbighshire Hawker
Ann Booth.......................2mths b 1901 Wrexham Niece/single
Sofia Lovell................6mths b 1900 Brosy Hill Shropshire sister in law .........
Uriah Lovell.................. 55 b 1846 Carnarvon brother in law Knife grinder/Cutler
Catherine Clery ...................57 b 1844 Ireland widow/hawker
There seems to be at least 2 mistakes on this census.. Sofia listed as 6mths is married & Hawker ?
I think she is Uriah wife and its been mis- transcribed on 1891 Census above she is b 1847 - so would be
54 yrs old , Uriah I believe is Nat & Sarah's Son
Also Ann Booth is listed as 2mths ,but a Domestic Servant and a baby ?
There are several others listed not sure of relationship :
Lewis Phillips 48 b 1853 Liverpool......Michael Brann 28 b 1873 Ireland......... Jack Linch 29 b 1872 Ireland
Ed Owen 21 b 1880 Flintshire........ Owen Jones 22 b 1879 Wales......... Micheal Clery 19 b 1882 Denbighshire
This is Nathaniel & Sarah Lovell son listed with them in 1881:
He married Lydia Poole in Jul/Aug/Sept 1891 Corwen Denbighshire
1901* Census Llangollen Denbighshire
Robert Lovell................. 37 b 1864 St Asaph Grinder
Lydia..........................46 b 1855 Lllangolen wife
William........................17 b 1884 Corwen Pleasure boaman
Ruth...........................13 b 1888 Corwen
John Robert.....................8 b 1893 Llangollen
Son : John Robert Lovell b 1893 : married Hannah Morris -had 6 children 4 boys & 2 girls
He was listed in British Army WW1 pension records: 1914-1920
Enlisted in 4th Royal Welsh Fusilisers 10th Feb 1913 -aged 20
Address ; 8 Prices Square Llangollen Denbighshire
He was 5ft 3ins tall
In 6th Oct 1914 he forefit 8 days pay for absence
Son : Seth Lovell b 1915 Jul/Aug/Sept Corwen Denbighshire, Merionethshire
mother : Poole
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In 1874 22nd June on Ship Pembrokeshire from Cardiff Wales to New York
Isaiah Lovell............... 35 b 1839 .. labour Wales
Fyence ......................30 b 1854... wife
Nicodemus................... Minor
Frank........................Minor
Leonard......................Minor
Germia.......................Minor
Louise.......................Infant
Benjamin.....................Infant
John Lovell..................27 b 1847 .. Labour Wales
Elizabeth....................24 b 1850
Benjamin.....................Infant
Frank Lovell.................43 b 1831 Labour Wales
Elizabeth....................40 b 1834
Llewelyn.....................23 b 1850
Sophia.......................22 b 1852
Edingel......................24 b 1850 (female)
John.........................Minor
Mary Ann.....................Minor
John Lovell .................20 b 1854 labour Wales
Rachel Todd..................36 b 1838 wife
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Family found in USA :
RogerT :
This is son of Fredrick & Carnation Lovell & brother to Lementina Lovell wife of David Lewellyn Boswell
1910* Census Jefferson Alleghany Pennslyvania.
Joshua Lovell....................52 b 1858 Wales.......... Trader/immigrated 1880
Jane.............................48 b 1862 Wales
Robert...........................24 b 1886 Pennslyvania
Mary.............................20 b 1890 Pennslyvania
Walter...........................18 b 1892 Maryland
Frank............................16 b 1894 Pennslyvania
Irene............................16 b 1894 Pennslyvania
Joseph...........................15 b 1895 Pennslyvania
Lydia.............................8 b 1902 Pennslyvania
Jane..............................6 b 1904 Tennessee
Myre..............................5 b 1905 Pennslyvania
1920* Census Joliet, Will, Illinois USA.
David Boswell........................64 b 1856 England....married/immgrated 1891- fireman on railroad
Tena.................................55 b 1865 England................ wife
John Dewy............................19 b 1901 Illinois................single
Otto.................................15 b 1905 Illinois................single
Blanche..............................11 b 1909 Illinois................grand daughter
Hazel.................................6 b 1914 Illinois ...............grand daughter
Samson Boswell...................... 24 b 1896 Illinois.............. .Handman
Loretta..............................22 b 1898 Illinois............... wife
Ceola.................................1 b 1919 Illinois................daughter
Walter Boswell......................62 b 1858 Canada...............married/ parents b Canada
Meshick Boswell.................... 27 b 1893 Illinois.............single/ son
Llewelyn Lovell.....................50 b 1870 England............ single/brother in law.. immgrated 1885
1930* Census Baugo, Elkhart, Indiana
Nicodemus Lovell........................ 60 b 1870 England Basket maker
Mary ....................................53 b 1877 England
Wallace..................................26 b 1904 Harrison USA Basketmaker/odd jobs
Ephriam..................................21 b 1909 Pennsylvania Basket maker/odd jobs
Naomi....................................22 b 1908 Columbia
Gertrude ................................17 b 1913 Columbia
Several Lovell families went to America :
Here I will try and give information and hopefully link them up to family in Wales
Ship Cuba - June 23rd 1870 - Liverpool to New York
Walter Lovell 50 b 1820
Rosanna 50 b 1820
Seth Lovell 30 b 1840
Rhoda Lovell 30 b 1840
In 1870 1st June there is a register of Emigrant Savings Bank Book : Seth Lovell : New Jersey desposited $100
He is from Worcesteshire England born 1839 : came on Cuba : married to Rhoda Lee
1900* New York Morning Express:
At the old Gypsy camp along the creek at Holywell Paper Mill this afternoon was performed a Religious ceremony
Old Seth Lovell head of the respected and wealthy family of Gypsies who made their winter home in Elizabeth New Jersey and came here about 30 years ago from England died last fall in Philadelphia in hospital ,buried in his plot in Evergreen Cemetery.
For many years he and his family have spent their summers around here and over winter stored his magnifcent Waggon which cost $1.600. His widow Rhody Lovell,his cousin Israel Smith & Will Smith and adopted son came here for the last rites to Seth's ceremony.
They got his Waggon took it to the old campnig ground and soaked it in Kerosene and set fire to it, inside was his bedding ,a dozen suits,a harness worth $250 and new double barrel shotgun.
Afew years ago Isreal Smith did similar with his wife's waggon and affects.
In an earlier article 1899 ,when he died its says Seth was the eldest son of the late Rebecca Lovell
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Sophia Lovell b 10th June 1852 England -died 20th July 1922 Toledo Ohio
Aged 70
Married spouse : Lovelling Lovell
Parents : Frank Lovell & Eizabeth Smith - England
1920* Census Columbus Ward 9, Franklin, Ohio
Sophia Lovell................... 69 b 1851 Wales
John ............................72 b 1848 Wales
Mary.............................39 b 1881 New York
Jane.............................29 b 1891 Maryland
Thomas Water.................... 40 b 1880 Pennslyvania ................. Son in law
Sarah Water......................25 b 1895 Pennslyvania.................. was Lovell
Willis............................2 b 1918 Ohio ...........................Grandson
John Lovell b 5th Feb 1869 Wales -died 15th Mar 1941 Martins Ferry Belmont Ohio
Aged 72
Married spouse: Fanny Dinty Lovell
Retired horse dealer
Parents : Frank Lovell born Wales -mother unknown * I think its Elzabeth Smith*
Leonard Lovell b 5th Apr 1895 Toledo Ohio -died 13th June 1932 Berea Cuyahoga Ohio
aged 37
Married spouse : Retta Lovell
Labour
Parents : Fenix Lovell -South Wales . Mary Smith South Wales
Francis Lovell died 9th Nov 1920 Durham North Carolina USA -aged 77
Born in England 1843
He was widowed -Spouse Chisdine Lovell
Parents : Oliver Smith & Elen Smith - England
Buried : Chicago Illinois
Lovell b 21st jan 1916 died 18days old : Jackson Twp Pike Ohio
Parents : Monticue Lovell Wales - Elizabeth Boswell Virginia
Marriage :
Ottowa Lovell b 4th July 1907 Lewistown Pennsylvania USA
Parents : Wester Lovell & Mary Smith born England
Married 28th july 1842 Henry USA
Louisa Broadway b 4th May 1907 Toledo Ohio
Parents : Edward Broadway & Emma Williams
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Mores Census records of Lovells not sure if related to above: found in Wales
1871* Census Llannfabon Glamorgan.
Heizeca Lovell (M)...................... 50 b 1821 Staffordshire Basket maker
Hezafia..................................50 b 1821 Yorkshire
Delia ross (M)...........................25 b 1846 Berkshire
John.....................................20 b 1851 Glamorgan
Edevgel (F)..............................20 b 1851 Swansea
Skisey(F) ...............................15 b 1856 Pembrokeshire
Henry.....................................9 b 1862 Neath Glamorgan
Salvator (F) .............................6 b 1865 mountain Ash Glamorgan
Elizabeth.................................2 b 1869 mountain Ash Glamorgan
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Henry Stokes.............................35 b 1836 Wiltshire Basket maker
Caroline ................................26 b 1846 Swansea
Ann .....................................11 b 1860 Rhodda Valley
Persila ..................................4 b 1867 Hirwan Pembrokeshire
Sophia ...................................1 b 1870 Llannfabon Glamorgan
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William Davies............................. 61 b 1810 Shropshire Basket maker/widowed
Ann.........................................31 b 1840 Worcester daughter
1871* Census Cyfarthfa Upper Merthyr Tydfil Glamorgan
William Lovell............................. 56 b 1815 Exeter Devon Grinder/Cutler
Elizabeth ..................................60 b 1811 Pontypool Monmouthshire
Lewis ......................................30 b 1841 Gloucester
Adolphus....................................15 b 1856 Staffordshire
Dona.........................................9 b 1862 Breckonshire
Shadack .....................................8 b 1863 Monmouthshire
Tranity (M)..................................6 b 1865 Breckonshire
Sarah.......................................28 b 1843 Newent
1891* Census St Asaph Flintshire * The Common*
Timothy * Moti* Lovell .....................35 b 1856 Tremeirchon Flintshire Hawker/Grinder
Margaret....................................30 b 1861 At Martins Shropshire
Charles.....................................13 b 1878 Caernavonshire
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1901* Census Eglwysilan St martin Caerphilly Glamorgan * Pentwyn field 1 van 2 tents*
Edward Lovell............................. 40 b 1861 Nk Gloucester Clothes Peg maker
Cinderella.................................38 b 1863 Worcester
Annie Smith................................22 b 1879 St Newton Monmouthshire daughter
Elizabeth Lovell ..........................20 b 1881 Llanddeffad Monmouthshire daughter
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Joseph Smith............................. 30 b 1871 Gloucester
Laura ....................................24 b 1877 monmouthshire
Percilla ..................................8 b 1893 Glamorgan
1901* Census Llanfihangel Ystrad Cardgianshire * Caravan*
John Lovel............................. 60 b 1841 Shropshire Tinman
Catherine ..............................45 b 1856 Carmathenshire
William ................................17 b 1884 Glynmorel Tinman
Tollfoss (M) ...........................19 b 1882 Pinunch Cardgianshire Basket maker
Ann ....................................23 b 1878 Llanarthney
Sarah...................................18 b 1883 Mountnessing Glamorgan
James Raftery ...........................6 b 1895 Morriston Glamorgan Grandson
Sarah ...................................3 b 1898 Pinunch Grand-daughter
1901* Census Lower Merthyr Tydfil Glamorgan
Charles Lovell..................... 28 b 1873 Cardiff Glamorgan............. something -maker ?
Ellen...............................32 b 1869 Merthyr
Beatrice.............................9 b 1892 Merthyr
Violet...............................8 b 1893 Merthyr
Gordon...............................7 b 1894 Merthyr
Ainlse(f)........................... 3 b 1898 Merthyr
Alfred...............................1 b 1900 Merthyr
1901* Census Eglwysilan Caerphilly Glamorgan * Pentwyn Field 1 vans 2 tents*
Edward Lovell.................40 b 1861 Nk Gloucestershire............clothes peg maker
Cinderella................... 38 b 1863 Malvern Worcestershire
Annie Smith...................22 b 1879 St Newton Monmouthshire.......daughter
Elizabeth lovell..............20 b 1881 Llanddegffad Monmouthshire....daughter
Joseph Smith..................30 b 1871 Gloucestershire...............Head
Laura.........................24 b 1877 Monmouthshire..................wife
Percilla.......................8 b 1893 Glamorgan
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Births :
Chesdine Lovell...... born 1863 Apr/May/June -Pontypool Gwent Monmouthshire
Adolphus Lovell ......born 1904 Oct/Nov/Dec -Tregaron Cardgianshire
Adolphus Lovell - ....born 1923 Llanwrst Wales -mother Griffiths
Adolphus R Lovell -...born 1925 Pontypool Wales -mother Lee
Marriages :
Adolphus Lovell to Joannah Hern Oct/Nov/Dec 1924 Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire
Robert Lovell to Ethel lovell 1951 Cardgianshire
Deaths :
Adolpus Lovell .....b 1878 -died Apr/May/June 1956 Haverfordwest Pembrokeshire -aged 78
Adolphus Lovell ....b 1857 -diedApr/May/June 1926 Caernarvonshire -aged 69
Adolpus Lovell .....b 1855 -died 1872 Crickhowell Breaconshire Monmouthshire -aged 17
Adolphus Lovell ....b 1884 -died 1945 Newport Gwent - aged 61
Nathaniel Lovell ...b 1823 -diedJul/Aug/Sept 1901 Anglesey Caernarvonshire -aged 78
Uriah Lovell .......b 1848 -died Jul/aug/sept 1915 Caernvon Angelsey -aged 67
Uriah Lovell .......b 1874 -died 1955 Caernvon -aged 81
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LEE FAMILY:- My family Sandeyb
This line of my family starts with Eldoraifi * Obadiri* Buckland who was daughter of Edward * Wingi* Buckland & Lucy Boswell
She married Samson Lee * Welsh Lees*
Lucy parents were Lawrence Boswell & Mary Buckland likely a sister to Edward * Winngi* Buckland Sr who married Diana Smith
*Obadiri* sister Rosanna also married Sampson brother Elijiah Lee
Edward *Wingi* Buckland being son of Edward * Winngi* Buckland & Paradice Lee - who in turn are related to my Tenent & Plato Buckland
Both Sampson & Elijah Lee are believed to be Kin to Paradice
There was another sister Peggy who married Alfred Smith he had a brother Job who stayed Single
1861* Census Breconshire Wales
Sampson Lee ...........56 b 1805
Alderaife .............50 b 1811 NK
Kandras ...............21 b 1840 Wales
Senbee ................20 b 1841 Wales (F)
Alafair ...............16 b 1845 Wales (F)
Gravalina............. 14 b 1847 Wales
Job ...................15 b 1846 Wales
Maryanas ..............13 b 1848 Wales
Louisa ................19 b 1842 Wales
Ester .................11 b 1850 Wales
Madonna ................8 b 1853 Wales
Charlie ...............10 b 1851 Wales
Perrin .................9 b 1852 Wales
Essea ..................6 b 1855 wales (M)
Diana ..................2 b 1859 Wales
There is another family with them : I have now realised this family were actually Lee being Elijah Lee & Rosanna Buckland
Brother & sister to Sampson & Alderaife using an Alias
because 2 of the boys Perrin & Magonnas married Christmas & Delia they were all 1st cousins
John Hancorn ...............45 b 1816 NK at Sea Basket maker
Mary .......................48 b 1818 Warwickshire
John .......................21 b 1840 Wales
William ....................18 b 1843 Wales
Doudy ......................15 b 1845 Wales
Hannah .....................14 b 1847 Wales
Christmas ...................9 b 1852 Wales
Delia .......................7 b 1854 Wales
Melferina ...................4 b 1857 Wales
Walter ......................2 b 1859 Wales
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Job Lee born 1846 -died 1869 Jul/Aug/Sept LIanlley Camarthernshire Wales - aged 23
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1871* Census LIanelly Breconshire Wales
Sampson Lee.............. 56 b 1815 Gloucestershire Travellimg Tinker / Hawker /widow
Jane .....................50 b 1821 Warwickshire
Isiah ....................15 b 1856 Worcestershire
William ..................14 b 1857 Gloucestershire
Elvina ...................12 b 1859 Worcestershire
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Susan Boswell 60 b 1811 Gloucestershire Widower/Peg maker
Louisa 22 b 1849
Esther 19 b 1852
1881* Census Stoke upon trent Staffordshire * Gypsy tent off Abby Rd*
Sampson Lee ...........67 b 1814 Gloucestershire Basket maker/widow
Kiandre ...............40 b 1841 Worcestershire Son of Sampson
Kiandre children:
Charles ...............24 b 1857
Ellarada ..............23 b 1858 Swansea
Seth ..................20 b 1861 Monmouth Wales
Mary ..................33 b 1848 Welshpool Wales wife of Kiandre
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Alice Smith .........50 b 1831 clothes peg maker/Widowed
Madona ..............24 b 1857 Northamptonshire
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This is Sampson & Eldoraifi Son :
Perrin Lee ..........27 b 1844 Worcestershire - Basket maker
Christmas ...........24 b 1857 Salop
Melvena ..............7 b 1874 Monmouthshire
Selina ...............5 b 1876 Welshpool
Ernest ...............2 b 1878 Staffordshire
Rudolphus .......10days b Staffordshire
Tranetta ........10days b Staffordshire
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Trinity Gibbs 48 b 1833 Worcestershire Clothes peg maker
James Boswell 67 b 1814 Warwickshire - Basket maker
Betty 26 b 1843 South Staffordshire
James 4 b 1877 South Staffordshire
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Perrin Lee married Christmas Lee alias Harcorn*
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This is Sampson & Eldoraifi Son :
Magonnas* Maryanas* married Delia Lee alias * Hancorn*
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1881* Census Ruabon Denbighshire Wales * Erw LIwyd Tents*
Magonnas Lee.......... 27 b 1854 Shrewsbury Shropshire -Basket maker
Delia .................27 b 1854 Shropshire
Rosanna ...............13 b 1868 Shropshire
Martha Jane ...........12 b 1869 Shropshire
John ...................8 b 1873 Shropshire
Caleb ..................6 b 1875 Shropshire
Amelia .................5 b 1876 Shropshire
Morgan .................2 b 1879 Shropshire
Feinise ................1 b 1880 Shropshire (M)
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Moses Hurn/Heron: Melenia is a Lee : I believe daughter of Sampson & Obadiri - I think she is actually Madonna b 1853, so this would make her Magonnas sister :
I also believe after Moses Heron died Madonna remarried Caleb Heron who was the son of Edmund Heron & Jemima Smith by his 2nd wife.
Moses Hurn ........30 b 1851 Yorkshire - Tinman
Melenia ...........23 b 1853 Bala Wales
Sarah Ann ..........1 b 1880 Derbyshire
Rachel ...........8wks
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Moses Hearne: b 1842 -died 1899 Jul/Aug/Sept Swansea Wales - aged 57
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Crimea * Nukes* Heron/Hearn b 1856 Ely Cambridgeshire married Delia Lee b 1857
Who I suspect was Diana Lee b 1859 & daughter of Sampson & Obadiri
They had children: All born in Wales
Juria b 1882,Beatrice b 1886,Sequa b 1888, Thomas b 1892, Oscar b 1894, Chesire b 1896 ,James b 1898
Both Moses & Crimea * Nukes* Heron were brothers and their parents were Alfred * John * Heron & Rebecca Butteridge they had children: Everlida b 1841 , Jack b 1842, Moses b 1851, Dola b 1848, Eldrifia b 1851,
Ancia b 1852, Joanna b 1854 Crimea * Nukes* b 1856.
They travelled Cambridge Huntingdonshire Gloucestershire Lincolinshire
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1891* Census Rhydri Glamorgan Wales * Gypsy Camp*
Sampson Lee ..........80 b 1811 Cheltenham Widowed
Alice Smith ..........60 b 1831 Nothamptonshire Single
Seperet Herne ........50 b 1841 Northamptonshire ( F) Single
Shandras Lee .........60 b 1841 Worcestershire (M) widowed/horse dealer -son of Samson
Narfield Herne .......33 b 1858 Leciestershire (M) Widowed
Doral Smith ..........35 b 1856 Huntingdonshire (F) single
Steven Smith .........27 b 1864 Ely Cambridgeshire single
Hellyeare Herne .......4 b 1887 Swansea Wales (F)
Notes :
Siberensis Buckland was known as *Greenleaf or Kidney*wife of Niabai or Edward Heron,they had son Edmund Heron b 1816. Siberensis died by 1819 and her sister Sinfai * known as the Crow *married Edward they had a son Isaac Heron.
Edmund Heron b 1816 believed to have had 2 wives :
Christmas Smith b 1815 had 3 daughters :
Matilda b 1835, Sage b 1836 Amelia b 1845.
2nd wife :
Jemima Smith b 1816 they had 6 children:
Caleb b 1848, Zipporeth b 1851, Mansfield b 1865 Trante b 1855,Lurania b 1856, Stephen b 1859
I believe Narfield Herne listed in 1891 is actually Mansfield Heron he did marry * Unknown* had 2 children Caleb b 1884 & Elvira b 1885 both children being born in Wales, I think Hellyeare is his daughter Elvira
I also think both Steven & Doral Smith are his cousins
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I have found a Census which would confirm Edward Herne was with Jemima
from this census it would appear that Edward daughter with Christmas called Alice b 1836 could be actually Sage using alias.
1871* Census, RG10-2607-28-12 Newent, Gloucestershire.
Edmund Herne ..............50 b 1821 Easton, Northamptonshire Head Gipsey
Jennina Herne .............55 b 1816 Staughton, Lincolnshire Wife Gipsey
Alice Smith ...............35 b 1836 Newniey, Northamptonshire Stepdaughter Gipsey.
Children from his 2nd marriage to Jemima Smith:
Caleb Herne ..............23 b 1848 Leighton Huntingdonshire Son Gipsey
Ziphentie Herne ..........21 b 1850 Ringstead, Northamptonshire Son Gipsey
Treinte Herne ............18 b 1853 Peterborough, Lincolnshire Daughter Gipsey
Urania Herne .............16 b 1855 Market Deeping, Lincolnshire, Daughter Gipsey
Manfell Herne ............12 b 1859 Welford, Northamptonshire Son Gipsey+
Madonna Smith ............16 b 1855 Lutton, Northamptonshire Granddaughter Gipsey
Stephen Smith ............11 b 1860 Ely, Cambridgeshire, England Grandson Gipsey+
Spencer Smith ............70 b 1801 Stratford, Warwickshire Head Gipsey
Prudence Smith ...........56 b 1815 Farnham, Northamptonshire Wife Gipsey
Raills Smith .............35 b 1836 Cleeve, Gloucestershire Son Gipsey+
Spencer Smith............ 26 b 1845 Unknown Head Gipsey
Lenora Smith .............30 b 1841 Tetbury, Gloucestershire Wife Gipsey
Lenora Smith ..............6 b 1865Tetbury, Gloucestershire Daughter Gipsey
Perrant Smith .............4 b 1867 Pie Lea, Gloucestershire Son Gipsey
Isa Smith .................1 b 1870Hardwick, Gloucestershire Daughter Gipsey
Taken on the Road, Slept in Parish
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1901* Census Llanwonno Pontypridd Glamorgan Wales
This is actualy Mansfield Herne:
Mamsfield Hern......... 46 b 1855 Leciestershire widowed / Travelling Hawker
Elvira .................16 b 1885 Swansea
Caleb ..................17 b 1884 Swansea
Other families with them :
William Barr ...........25 b 1876 Seck Somerset Hawker/Brush seller
Lucy ...................20 b 1881 Glamorgan Wales
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Septmus Smith .........40 b 1861 Northamptonshire Travelling Hawker
Mutk ...................25 b 1876 Shropshire wife
Jemima ..................7 b 1894 Glamorgan
Louisa ..................2 b 1899 Wales
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Samson William .........25 b 1876 Wales Clothes peg maker
Mary ...................22 b 1879 Wales
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Joe Lee ................23 b 1878 Cardiff Peg maker
Sarah ..................22 b 1879 Cardiff
Friend ..................3 b 1898 Wales
Fredrick ................1 b 1900 Glamorgan Wales
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Am looking for any info on a Washington Malon/Malen Lovell b 1828 possibly Cleveland, Oh d. 1911, father of William Henry Lovell b. New Salem, IL around 1856, father of Raymond Jefferson Lovell b.1891 New Salem, IL, father of Robert Earl Lovell b.1926 Galesburg, Il. Any connections to this early Lovell family in the US would be greatly appreciated and gladly shared with any connected family!
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Darcy - I am a Lovell, descended from Daniel and Virtue Lovell. This line (my paternal line) came to the US by Simon (by 2nd g-grandfather) who settled in New Orleans. His son, Albert (my g-grandfather) continued to travel, met and married a Greek woman (my g-grandmother) and they settled on Mt Desert Island, Maine (where one stil finds many Lovells and Stanleys)
There are two of us on this site who are Lovells and descended from Daniel and Violetta. Besides me, there is Anne Lovell Riner from Texas.
Something funny - Your name is Darcy Lovell Barrett. My name is David Barrett Lovell (Barrett is my mother's maiden name).
Email me at: ctgypsy62@yahoo.com if you'd like any assistance.
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Following the death of my cousin, the last surviving niece of Dr Dora Yates, two manuscript notebooks have come into my possession, given to Dora in about 1950. They contain Romani folk tales and reminiscences, and also pen drawings of Sampriel Huron (?Heron), Zylpha Lovell ('Grannie', the story teller), Clementina Lovell, Pharo Lovell, Sylvie Heron, and Marta Lovell. Can anyone help me by identifying these people?
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JOHN LOVELL BORN 1874
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JOHN LOVELL BORN 1874 AND DORIS TAYLOR WERE MY GRAND DAD AND GRANNY HAROLD 33
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By the way... I fogot to say! My grandfather's name was William Henry Lovell.
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