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Journal of the Gypsy Lore Society And Today’s Reference Book’s
(C)By Sue Cole
When you start your research into your Romany family history there will come a point when you will come across one of the first Society’s that was formed to preserve the Romany history and culture both written and oral and also many Images of Gypsies not just in England but from all over the world. The well known name’s of the first Gypsy Scholars such as W.T.Thompson George Hall, Otto Winstead and of course Dora Yates plus many more . It is at this point you will become aware of the many different versions of the Romany Jib ,as each of the above had their own Idea of the spelling of the words which is understandable as the Language was always a oral one and was also pronounced in different ways depending on the area and the Gypsies who spoke it,just as it is today.

I have had many people say and write different words and many are slightly different but generally one knows what the word is by how it is pronounced.
Many people have commented that there are many errors in the trees and family history of the old Gypsies which are recorded in the journals ,but when you consider what they had available to them at the time compared to what we have today in regards to Census and available Data on the Internet Its amazing that we have so much to glean from the JGLS Journal’s especially when at that time the Gypsies were a much more tight knit group who were much more secretive than today. Bearing all this in mind one still has to be grateful to the JGLS as in many cases it can point you in the right direction which you may otherwise had missed. It is also fascinating to read words and stories from the mouths of your ancestors Which
add meat to the bones of your tree!You can also get the feeling that maybe a few stories and tale’s were told to eager Gypsiologists for the price of a pint or two!.
But with the info from the journal’s and by cross referencing the data with the available census year’s and many old book’s that were wrote at the time you can steadily build up a tree that leads up to the present day ,and if your lucky maybe a few picture’s of your ancestor’s as well ! If your ancestor was one of the well known Romanies then even better as the Smith’s, Lock.Boswell, Hearn.Lovell.Cooper,Burton and Buckland (to name a few)are well documented. Not forgetting today’s writers and researcher’s Robert Dawson has wrote “The Genealogy of the Romany Boswells” which is a must for any one with Romany ancestry ,and the late Len Smith’s “Nevi Wesh” is a must for people with Hampshire Travellers in their tree .
The massive work undertaken by Terrence Lee which resulted in the “Smith Genealogy’s”and the “Lee Genealogy’s” which consists of three book’s which were privately published a copy of each were deposited in the British Library so it’s worth inquiring to them for details one of these book's the Smith Genealogies is now available to read online.
Terrence Lee’s works are an invaluable asset to any and all who have Romany ancestry as nearly all the major families are including as there were so many Marriages between them and the old data available has been crossed referenced with the Census and other record’s now available to create what I think is quite remarkable and is as important as the old JGLS journals so I must commend Mr Lee for his year’s of research he has condensed into these three volumes.

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Various Extract's from the Journal's of the Gypsy Lore Society.

AFFAIRS OF EGYPT:- 1909: -
On the 8th Henry Roberts was fined at Newton for allowing a horse to stray ; and on the same day Prudence Stephens, married, of the Box, Minchinhampton, was summoned at Nailsworth for fortune-telling, and also for using obscene language.
An early morning affray at Maindy, near Cardiff", had its sequel at the Llandaff" Police Court on the 26th when Caleb Hearn
(a son of Old Edmund, Ike's half- brother) and his four sons, John, George, Benjamin and Alfred, together with Harry Riles, were charged with assaulting two policemen, who had attempted to impound their straying horses. The chief wonder was that the policemen were alive to tell the tale of the attack.

Cornelius Lee, who was accused of beating one of the constables with a kettle prop, and threatening to kill him had escaped. The defendants were sent to prison for various periods ranging from one to three months.
No sooner were the sentences announced than the Gypsy women and children at the back of the Court began wailing piteously. In this they were joined by two or three of the younger prisoners, the remainder waving farewells as they were escorted to the cells.

On May 16 a party of Gypsies ' under the control of ' Caradoc Price, and consisting of eight families with twenty caravans, were evicted from Cymla Common, Neath.

On the 20th, at Swansea, Henry Riley (22), a tinker, camping at Stratford Common, Gowerton, was summoned for assaulting John Fury, an Irish tinker, whose jaw he broke, but the case was eventually dismissed. Thomas Riley also appeared in the Police Court during the year.

At the Southwell, Notts, Petty Sessions, on May 21, Isaac Smith appeared to answer charges of (1) keeping two dogs without licences, (2) unlawfully encamping on the highway, and was ordered to pay £1, 14s. 0d. in all.

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126 *AFFAIRS OF EGYPT, 1909 :-

September was hardly a normal month, for the hop-picking caused the Gypsies — and especially the lower class ones to congregate in Kent, Surrey, Hampshire, Worcestershire, and Herefordshire. Apparently those who went tenderin' the
levinengros into Kent and Surrey were a particularly law-abiding lot (some of them were converted Gypsies
from the Latimer Road area), for not a single Gypsy appeared in the Police Court in either county during the month.
Hampshire only showed an average crop of convictions — Job Sherrard and Francis Hughes, poaching at Lemington .
Job Sherrard, willful damage to the New Forest ; Noah Collins, horses astray at Basingstoke ; Elizabeth and
Thomas White and May Mathews, drunkenness at Alton ; Luke Bull, encamping on highway at Alton.
and Matthew Loveridge, leaving horse and cart unattended at the same place.
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AFFAIRS OF EGYPT, 1909 :
"Gypsies to move from Blackpool Sands"

This process of packing up took an unconscionable time to accomplish apparently, for six weeks later most of the Gypsies were still there, and still dukerin' too in spite of the belated and somewhat inconsistent prosecution of April 14. An attempt was made to secure exemption from the ban for some of those who were born on the sands, notably the descendants of Sarah and Ned Boswell, whilst later in the year — in November — Mrs. Franklin addressed the following appeal to the King on behalf of all the Gypsies on the South Shore : —

' To His Majesty, — I am very sorry to have to trouble you, but it is for a cause of necessity. It concerns all the gipsies at Blackpool. We have been resident here for the past forty years, and have always been encamped on one spot of ground. We all pay £20 to £25 for the season, and also pay rates and taxes.
Our tents were the first things on the show ground, and now they want to get rid of us by giving us only one week's notice.
' It is very hard for us all. It is driving us from our homes after being here for so many years. Most of our children have been born, christened, and educated here. We appeal to His Majesty for his kind help and sympathy. We are English gipsies, and we look to our King for justice. — Your humble servant,
(Signed), Mrs. Franklin."
His Majesty (through his Secretary) replied that Mrs. Franklin's letter had been passed on to the Local Government Board for inquiries to be made. What was the ultimate fate of the Blackpool Gypsies the Press-cuttings for 1909 do not state, but it is common knowledge that Gypsy Sarah's descendants alone succeeded in retaining their pitch on the sands. Some of the rest took houses in Blackpool, others secured places on which to stand their vans and put up their tents on the outskirts of the town, whilst Noah and Oscar Young and Bendigo Lee removed with their families to Preston. Next summer, however, most of them continued to ply their trade on the sands, although they were not allowed to camp there.
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Notes & Queries JGLS
Gypsy Marriage

To the kindness of Mr. William A. Cragg, of Treekingham House, near Folkingham, Lincolnshire, we owe the following extract from the Lincoln Gazetteer newspaper of July 29, 1785 :
" Saturday last was married at St. Margaret's Church in Leicester, Phoenix, a youth belonging to Boswell's gang of Gypsies [now hutted in Humberstone-field], to Miss Boswell, daughter of Mr. Boswell, King of this fraternity. His Gypsean Majesty attended the ceremony.
Miss Charlotte Boswell was bridesmaid, and 10 or 12 of the gang likewise attended. They presented the clergyman who performed the ceremony with half-a-guinea, and to the ringers 15s., with a good dinner and drink in great plenty.
We understand that a marriage ceremony amongst this tribe of people is always celebrated with great merriment, and the feasting lasts for 14 days ; indeed it is impossible to conceive a happier set of people than they appeared to be on this occasion. The consummation of the nuptial rights was intended to be in Humberstone- field ; where perhaps Phoenix and his enamored Princess, upon a green sod, with the canopy of heaven their only covering, may taste as much real felicity as those of a higher order in their beds of down with pillows of thorns. . . .
' Phoenix' trade is that of a tinker — his wife is a dealer in palmistry. . . .

' We learn that in a few days, at or near Holwell-mouth, by Melton Mowbray, there will be a general meeting of Gypsies from Leicestershire and the neighboring counties, to celebrate the nuptials of Phoenix with the King's daughter.
' The Gypsies have undoubtedly a form of government amongst themselves, and to their King pay the most implicit obedience ; to this submission we may fairly attribute their apparent happiness. They have no false honour amongst them, and they look upon shame as the most grievous punishment in the world.'
It is interesting to notice, as Mr. John Sampson points out, that while, at the beginning, the writer is evidently describing a real Gypsy wedding, yet when he goes on to give an account of Gypsy government and punishment by degradation, which if true
would be immensely important, he is quoting almost verbally from Fielding's Tom Jones, book xii. chap. 12.
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Notes and Queries Vol. 9 2nd S. (228) May 12 1860 Page 359

Being in Belbroughton Churchyard Worcestershire is a fine Tombstone to the memory of Paradise Buckler (who died in 1815),the daughter of a Gypsy King. the pomp that attended her funeral is well remembered by many of the inhabitants. One of my relatives said how the Gipsies borrowed from her a dozen of the finest damask napkins(for the coffin handles)_ none but those of the very best quality being accepted for the purpose-- and that they were duly returned,beautifully "got up"
and scented. the king and his family were encamped in a lane near to my relative's house, and his daughter a young girl of fifteen died in the camp. Cuthbert Bede.
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In the summer of 1910 I met Eldorai,^ the eldest of 'Taw's' children. A little squarely built grey-headed old woman, she seized my hand and danced up and down in delighted welcome the second time I visited her; on the first occasion I was of course greeted cautiously, with reserve befitting the reception of a stranger.

' I want to be out on de roads again ; 1 feel it inside me, here, . . . dere are none of de old Kale left now, we are all mixed up wid de gadje.^ Look at my childer, see her,' and she pointed to one of her daughters, a depressed looking young woman who sat sulkily in a distant corner, ' why, she does not know as much Romani as you do . . . de old people wouldn't let no gadje
come anear dem.

' De marriage over de broom ? You ask me 'bout dat ? 'member I never seed it done myself, but I 've heer'd my mother talk 'bout it. De old gran'father, he held de stick, dis way one end resting on the ground], den de "bride's girl" jumped over it, an' den de bridegroom,den de bride, an' last de " bridegroom's man. See Matthew Wood's pedigree, loc. fit.
' Eldorai is herself a prime offender. Married successively to a Welshman and an Irishman, I believe that the greater part of her life has been passed in a house, out of hearing of the Human tongue
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Old Customs :-
Although Oli Lee and his wife, who are living in a tent at Newport, Men., awaiting the completion of a new waggon, are only about thirty years old, they keep up the ancient Gypsy customs. Mrs. Lee told me that she had her own cups, etc., when chiv'd to wodrus, and that after the month's quarantine they were broken : and she added that her mother invariably took the additional precaution of wearing gloves.
Again, whilst apologizing for the lack of butter in some cake, she said that her husband never ate butter in any form, asking — 'How long is it, Oli, since you had butter ? ' He answered quite roughly, ' How should I know, woman ? ' Then she lowered her voice and told me that their little daughter who died had been very fond of bread and butter. Also, when I had twice corrected Oli, who referred to Cinderella Lovell,
(in Way's No. 74", which I was reading) as ' Charlotte,' she told me that the child's name was Cinderella, and that he was unwilling to pronounce it, I asked whether they would eat from a plate which a dog had licked — Lazzie Smith allows his dog to eat from his plate ; — and Oli, pointing to the old kettle, replied with emphasis, — ' If that kettle was to fall into the clothes' water, we 'd smash it up.' It is pleasant to think that these customs will not die away for at least another generation.
(John Myers).
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A Few Extracts from the Gypsy Lore Society Journals

5th October 1778 – Bridewell, Hertfordshire
William Bosville and Commerserilla Bosville were passed to their place of settlement –

29th August 1812, Bridewell, Herts: Wisey Mentar Boswell and Christy Boswell committed for indecent and disorderly behaviour

9th November 1880 Baptised - John, illegitimate son of William Curtis and Viraminta Smith “Travelling Gypsies”

30th August 1772 ? Born or Baptised at Cardington, Beds - Sinurus, daughter of John and Margaret Smith, “Travelling Gypsies”

6th October, 1740:-Party of Boswells – Charles Snr and Jnr, Hannah, Letitia and ‘Bush’, taken from Hertford to
Newgate gaol for transportation

3.2.1769. Sibby Draper, daughter of Saunders and Beaty Draper – Gypsies

At Ivinghoe – Tinkerfield is recorded as Hearne, Horn, Earns and Erns. Ayres also recorded as Hare.
Both Ayres?Hare and Ern/Hearn were first called HAIR.

Ivinghoe – Baptised 26.3.1792 – Riley, son of Tinkerfield and Flowery Hearne, Gypsy vagrants.
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(Prettymaid also had a child by Tinkerfield .
The name Riley was common amongst the Smiths which suggests that Flowery too was a Smith and that Tinkerfield lived with two sisters, either together or at a different time ,Shulah or “Old Shulah” may well have been Tinkerfield’s mother)

Christened at Wing 20th December 1789 (born 14th December) Trinetta Earns, illegitimate daughter of Tinkerfield Earns and Mary Smith (Vicar queried spelling of the name Hearn)

Amos and Sophia Cooper’s
first son James was born on Wiltshire Downs and became tall and handsome with curly black hair. In 1939 he joined the RAF. Amos and Sophia also had a daughter Mary

22nd January 1880 John Roberts, a famous Welsh Gypsy (father of John Louis Roberts of Pentre Voelas) said his grandmother was Molly Stanley – wife of Abram Woods second son William

Frederick Cowles in the Journals of the Gypsy Lore Society writes that members of the COOPER family could perform miracles with an old jack-knife and a block of pear wood and found a ready market for their work.
He also mentions that a friend of his bought a fine iron work specimen of a fire-dog and although he searched everywhere, he could never find a companion to make a pair. Eventually one of the LEES copied it for him and it was so perfectly made that it was said that only an expert could tell the original from the copy.
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24 EARLY ANNALS OF THE GYPSIES IN ENGLAND.
In 1649, at Bransby, in the North Eiding of Yorkshire, "divers people in the habits of jipsey," were apprehended. " Divers of them did tell fortunes," and "they did some tyme speak in languages which none who were by could understand." Their leader's name was Grey, and his followers were Elizabeth Grey, Richard and Barbara Smith, and Francis and Elizabeth Parker. They owned a mare, had several children, and had travelled through the counties of Hereford, Stafford, Salop, Chester, and Lancaster, on their way to Northumber- land (Surtees Soc., vol. xl).



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