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 The purpose of creating this satellite site is that Wetpaint lends itself to easier compilation of certain information in table format. The main Romanygenes site does allow this also it is easier for "live" enquiries and discussion and allows for members to interact and add their own family information and pictures. ***************************************************************** Jeśli użytkownik przyłączy się do tej witryny w rozumieniu reklamy otrzymasz zakaz ***************************************************************** Below is a link to the site map, this is always up to date and shows every page on RomanyJib. Click to Enter - SITE MAP ***************************************************************** Latest News Wetpaint's Down Time As many of you may notice Wetpaint goes into read-only mode often, also known as Maintenance mode. Sorry we cannot not let members know what is happening as we also cannot access Jib to tell you Raeg has suggested making another site just so in future if this happens members can make contact * only * so you all can keep in touch below is link to site if Jib is off line http://s13.invisionfree.com/RomanyJib/index.php ---------------------------- ALL MEMBERS PLEASE READ MOST IMPORTANT It has come to our attention at the moment we seem to be attracting a lot of new members! Some of those are proving to be people joining for the sole purpose of posting advertising links on their profiles As we are finding them we are banning them off the site We must urge members : not to click on the links as some of them are routes to very dubious sites and could expose you to the risk of Virus and Malware infection. There is no risk to anyone as long as you do not click the links We have some very inventive user names appearing on Jib.. which is wonderful No one has to use their real name that is a good safety point when being on net I would only ask though please do think before making up a name if it sounds offensive or rude I will delete account It would be nice if you all could just add alittle to your profile,when you join just basic things like where you are from - country or family surnames you are interested in... it helps others who might be looking for a relative link up --------------------- Sandeyb Lots of you are now receiving your DNA kits which is great news and I am sure we are all looking forward to hearing the results, if any of you have questions or concerns please can you contact Matt directly mattsears53@googlemail.com We not involved in the project , nor do we know when results will be available I cannot answer any questions about DNA or the project I only offered to help by letting people know it was going on...... I do want to know as much as anyone else when results etc will be known but understand Its a project that will take time to to collect together, so think we all have to be patient BRITISH ROMANY GENETIC ANCESTRY PROJECT For those who may not see it Matt Sears has posted on jib you can access his post by clicking below : They still are looking for donors and interested from hearing from Males with a Romany mother * Maternal Line* Also you can go to this link which is their own site : www.le.ac.uk/diasporas http://gypsyjib.wetpaint.com/thread/4628936/BRITISH+ROMANY+GENETIC+ANCESTRY+PROJECT This is a geninue Project run by the Department of Genetics University of Leicester England with Professor Mark Jobling & Dr Turi King Written by Matt Sears Any MALE as long as you fit the criteria being Male and from British Romany lines via your Paternal Male line father -son -son etc can be considered even if you live abroad . Donors who fulfil the research criteria will be sent kits through the post with full instructions, paperwork (i.e. ethical approval). In return for taking part, we will provide you with a summary of the results, designed for the layperson, when it becomes available .In addition to this, at the end of the study we will send you copy of your male inherited Y chromosome genetic fingerprint and an explanation sheet designed for the layperson. The aim of the study is to investigate the biological origins of Britain's Romany Gypsy community,anyone wishing to take part in this unique project willl need to provide a basic genealogy through their paternal line. Along side sampling individuals, if extensive research has been done into your family and after viewing the genealogies involved we would possibly consider sampling cousins (more distantly related than third cousins) bearing the same surname ******************* Matt has made a recent post if anyone wishes to read what he has said click link below ; http://gypsyjib.wetpaint.com/thread/4628936/BRITISH+ROMANY+GENETIC+ANCESTRY+PROJECT ***************** ----------------------------------------------- Please be aware if you put your email address anywhere in public place as in a post on the internet, they can be found by software that scours the web looking for addresses for spam emails. I strongly advise you do not put your email in public view on any site If you do it here in a post only you can edit ( change what you have written ) No one can edit another's post, even Admin does not have that ability We can only delete complete posts or threads, we cannot change anything another person has written Please use the sites Private Messaging to give email to another member its much safer as only yourself and other member can see these messages - just click on their user name and send a message I know some might find this site alittle confusing as there is so much information in diffferent sections.. with that in mind I am making a new section to help us all ......... it will be Members Families Just add your user name on Jib any surnames you are linked to.. If you could add if you know where they come from as in maybe counties countries .. So then all can check this page if you see a surname you are linked wiih you can contact the member or members who share same links So this might help us all connect up Many members will have found they were experiencing problems with this site. Wetpaint have been trying to rectify these problems on their all sites Problems include difficulty with posting Updating, Login, & the Private message service. If when you post and send you cannot see what you have wrote use the refresh button on your Computer ,you may have to do it several times, but it will be there As you will appreciate your Administration and site moderators are unable to let members know that it is a Wetpaint/Site problem rather than a personal one as it affects us too. We can only apologise as it is frustrating and annoying for everyone We hope these problems will soon be solved . The invite system does not work It is best to give them the url to Jib below : http://gypsyjib.wetpaint.com/ Tell them to put it in their search and it should refer them to this home page When it opens explain they can join by clicking * sign up * in top right corner of Home page, they should be able then to join Its not Jib fault again its something to do with Wetpaint When you join you become a member of Wetpaint which means you can sign into any of their sites with your user name and password I would just like to make it clear as some members have asked We are not connected with any other Romany/Gypsy site on Wetpaint ------------------------------- A family history is never your history alone.It is collective. It belongs to a whole set of people, many of them will still be alive and however respectful you try to be of other people's opinions and feelings, there is no getting away from the fact that when it is written down, there is a sense in which that becomes the authorised version, simply because it can be read by anyone, especially if its on internet websites We are all searching for answers and will find many sites about family history where people have done a family tree, please be aware many trees are copies of others and also because they are copies any mistakes will be copied too We are all human and mistakes do happen It is always best to do your own research and backing up your findings with BMD certificates, where possible. There are many good resource sites with information about BMD ,but always check because sometimes its taken from actual records and sometimes its user donated meaning its may not be correct if the person who send it in has not followed it up with checking actual records. Romanies and Travellers have always been reluctant to share their family stories with outsiders and maybe alot of what has been written especially by non gypsies might not be truthful, but only those that know the truth can change that. Not many if any families have ever actually had any written documentation handed down personally through family, the reason being they could not read or write, so the only stories, were those passed down by word of mouth , many people have told me how lots of photos etc were often destroyed when a older member died, with them also went alot of oral information, which is sad for those later generations who want to know about their ancestors. Please don't be afraid to post about your family no matter how little information you have the more we can add together helps to find them.. & hopefully connects you to other relatives dead or alive ------------------------- I am aware there are those who troll net just gathering information to produce elsewhere as if its their own work.. Now more are aware that those who take others work are about.. Many members here have put certain things in place with their work that can prove its theirs and I am not saying what ,but it proves its theirs All I do ask is respect those who are sharing their family history here and ask their permission before you pass it on especially photos they belong to individuals and just because it might be your ancestor does not give you any rights The easy answer here is do the right thing and ask if you can use it. Copyright ©2010 Gypsy Jib/RomanyJib. All site/forums content, logos and artwork are copyright to their respective owners. No content, image, or text should be reproduced in total or part without permission of the owner/author. ------------------------------------- Welcome to RomanyJib . Email- romanyjib@live.co.uk This is a sister-site to RomanyGenes 1 & 2 And American Romanichals. Sue began the sites mention above as a way of collecting and preserving a history of our Romany people..but as many asked for the ablity to chat together, those sites could not offer this ablity.. so jib was created to accomodate their request This site allows users to interact together and exchange information in a friendly atomsphere, somewhere we can all share in our family history and help each other. This easy and friendly atmosphere will hopefully encourage the less experienced among us and people just starting on their family history journey who need help in understanding ,the various resources available and how to use them to get the best results. There are site rules and we will not tolorate anyone not keeping them, but hope we do not have to do that. They can be found in menu under " copyright and site rules " We ask no payment or recieve any finanical help keeping this site going, we do it because we wanted a place to come to share and help each other trace family , it is not about us its about creating a place where people will come and feel happy to add their family information. We hope you will join us to participate in the researching and recording of Romany family history for future generations. In the true spirit of history and research. We have many members of the old lines of romany families and they are always happy to help with questions and I know through this site we have helped people find lost relatives and much more .. we are very proud of our members and their trust in us and this site and without them this site would not exist Kushti Bokt John and Sue ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Please remember to keep checking through the Menu as its updated with more information We update information about all topics listed in the menu box top left hand page as and when we find things so its worth checking ............. We also add new subjects regular: regarding new topics on site.. Helpful hints on using site: It seems some maybe finding it hard to navigate this site........... please if you do have difficulties say and we will try and amend it so everyone can access things easily.Either PM Sandeyb -Raeg or John a private message by clicking on names and then click send message:we will answer you as soon as: NEW**Internal Links Page **Quick Find Links to pages in Sub Menu If you click on this page in menu box it will open up a list of pages attached to other main pages ,just click on blue writing and it will open up the page you are looking for, due to space and if subject is linked we have put some pages together. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Finding Topics on Site: Alternatively use of the *search this site * will find specific pages, just put any combination of words and it should take you to pages with those words in subject. Just scroll down through until you find what you are looking for: Or you can scroll through the menu which is below the *search this site* When you click on the subjects it will open page but check also as the are some with sub pages attached.......... which will show in menu box below each topic. Add a Photo To add a Photo click on " Photos" button on the top right of page. the "Add Photo "box will appear How to Choose the location of the photo to upload, or search for a photo on the web
How to add to pages: On each page in top left hand corner is *Easyedit* if you wish to add to any page use this:A box will appear with Easyedit toolbar: don't be afraid to play about if you mkae mistakes just click cancel The page will open allowing you to add writing etc, but remember to click save after you finish......... if you make mistake just click cancel Some pages now are locked for safety reasons so the information cannot be altered If you want to add anything please use the post box below each page When you make a post: When posting you are limited to how many words you can write, so its best if you are writing an article or a story to make a *new page* and then post it, that way you are not restricted on the word count. Making a new Page : Below Menu is * Add a New page* click on this and it will open a box, put title of page and click save......... then use Easyedit to reopen page and begin adding writing etc ......... don't forget to click save when you finish. Anytime you wish to add more to page just go to page and open easy edit and follow the above intructions if the page is locked contact admin and we will open page for you to allow you to add I hope this helps those who were finding it hard to navigate , but any suggestions will be looked at and if we can help make it simpler we will try. I also want to assure everyone that all information as in BMD & CENSUS can be found on Internet either on free sites or paid ones, and as long as its not copied and pasted directly from the original documents but transcribed and formatted as a new work it is then your transcription. (This is pertaining to Official Government Census and BMD etc.) *Census Returns are Crown Copyright and transcriptions are provided here by permission of HMSO Under Licence No. C2007001105 Copyright All Census data produced has been obtained from the:- Office for National Statistics and is © Crown Copyright reproduced with the permission of the Office of Public Sector Information and the Queen's Printer for Scotland. The source of all Census data is Office for National Statistics. Users are granted permission to reproduce Crown Copyright material for their personal use provided that a Click-Use Licence has been obtained. A Click-Use licence can be obtained from OPSI, where you can also check if your organisation already has a license. When reproducing Census material, the source must be acknowledged. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Personal Photos or Personal posts belong to those who put them on here and should be so respected If anyone feels that someone has abused this please let us know and it will be dealt with. If you don't understand about Copyright or rules regarding living people information please ask either via a post or in private Pm we are always here to help. All information that is received is received in good faith and with a view only to help others in their family history research if by any chance an Innocent error has been made * unintentionally * please let a Moderator know ASP and we will deal with the error Thank you. DISCLAIMER As most of the information on this site is contributed by members, we the site owners hold no information about members personal details - or accept any responsibility whatsoever for any errors in accuracy or omissions. Where it can be proved information is incorrect we are happy to change or omit information All information should be verified before adding to your family tree by your own research This site and contents is focused on Genealogy Research and public records and is meant to be a guide only! --------------------------------------------------------------- | |
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| sandy1300 | re: tracing family | 2 | Dec 9 2011, 9:15 AM EST by John7980 | ||
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i am trying to find any infomation about the Pottifers my grandmothers name was field and she told me her mother name was pottifer she lived in catford london but was born in brighton 1889 she told me that her parents were romany but i cant find any infomation on this ...i did meet an old gent years ago and he told me he knew my greatgrand father and he use to be a horse dealer and would run horses from london to brighton thats all i know could anyone point me in the right direction please
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| wilson1977 | re: tracing family | 2 | Dec 1 2011, 3:22 PM EST by wilson1977 | ||
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hello evreyone, im wondering if anyone would be able to help me. ive been tracing my family back and have got to my great grandfather. i know he lived on nanny goat common which is in becontree , dagenham, essex. him surname was Suckling. if anyone has any info on the suckling family or nanny goat common i would be really greatful. many thanks, Sally.
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| kataust | Can somebody in the Petulengro family please talk sence to me. | 4 | Nov 22 2011, 9:08 PM EST by kataust | ||
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Like the heading say's can somebody in the Petulengro family please talk sence to me. I have been given so much conflickting information.
I grew up in Australia with the names of Petulengro, Smith, Boswell and Lee. the town name of Blackpool. My father was obviously at Leon Petulengro's wedding to Eileena Smith as he could desbribe it 50 years or more before it went on to YuTube. I nearly freaked out when I saw it on yutube as it was how my father had descbed it how did he know if he wasn't there.. He also had a REAL photo of CARMEN Petulengro and one of Carmen and a old lady in his little bundle of special photos. if you don't want to put it on Jib, my email adress is vk6kts@wia.org.au I hope someone can help. PLEASE. Kat |
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posted by lilyhoskins Jun 24 2011, 6:18 AM EDT
Sophia Hoskins/Coleman ? Woolhope
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